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[takes his phone back and types in a different search result and just skims through, showing her that much content had been made at Yue's expense]
It got ugly, he dropped out of modeling entirely and started doing what he does now. For whatever reason, he doesn't tell people, but he can't help himself from making it pretty obvious he hates me.
The reason to make amends is you were wrong, it's not about him at all. You assumed things about someone else's gender, and gender is complicated as it is without you setting it on fire. There's plenty of actually shitty lives for you to ruin out there. You could afford to take an L for once, if it's for a good cause.
Anyway, I didn't ask him because I simply can't communicate with him.
I've done lots of wrong things. It isn't bad to have someone to be mad at, anyway. And he doesn't want my apologies.
This isn't the first time this has happened. Even if you asked, he probably wouldn't tell you. But I don't have any advice, I also find him hard to communicate with.
You know there's wrong and there's wrong. I've never lived in a black and white world and I don't think it exists, but it's good to admit when you mess up. It builds character. And I bet it would even bring you views and create controversy. "Demonic Squid has a conscience?!" Your viewers would spike for a while just for admitting one little truth that could save lives.
Personally, I think revitalizing something that's died down so that I can do an apology tour and get some views is sleezier than what started this.
But if you think what he really wants is for me to publicly apologize, get him to admit it to me and I'll think about it. He's had plenty of chances to ask for that himself, though.
I said this isn't about him and I mean it. I don't understand him either. I'm just thinking about the implications of what happened.
What if you find a different way to acknowledge that you don't actually have a problem with non-binary people and you may have been wrong in the past? Completely unrelated. That wouldn't be sleazy.
I've said a dozen times that I don't have a problem with non-binary -- and trans -- people before in various circumstances. Honestly I might have even said so during the original bit.
But that doesn't matter, because riling up narrow minded people for clicks is the job. It will always be the job. The point of the Demonic Squid character is not to be a likeable guy who is right about things.
Seriously, though... If you still did this, that means Yue had to have done something that looked at least vaguely appropriative of female spaces, right? Otherwise it wouldn't have worked for anyone. Or it would have gone directly against your stance, clicks aside.
But I have trouble picturing him doing that when he's so insistent on keeping diverse audiences into consideration in his content when they were a minority in his stats from EmpEnt. We argued about that more than once. He insisted they were fake. There were errors in the documents, so it was impossible to tell what was happening. It was all pretty annoying.
The character Demonic Squid is unredeemable trash who is incapable of being considerate. The guy who plays Demonic Squid just needed a job and found something he was good at. You know, I tried having a 'nice' stream when I started, but then I decided I liked eating more.
If I wanted to start a second channel, I could, I guess. Or quit entirely. Rebranding Demonic Squid wouldn't be worth the effort, it's almost a decade entrenched in it's current brand.
But why? I still enjoy it, and I'm still good at it. And I'm more successful than ever.
That's not what I'm saying. I heard your stream about my doxing, and I appreciated that you deflected attention from me in spite of what Demonic Squid the character should have done. But it didn't seem to me like the essence of Demonic Squid was affected by that in any way.
Your viewers are dumb. You can be less shitty, without losing anything. They just want to hear you destroy whoever.
I didn't do anything Demonic Squid the character wouldn't do. It wasn't about being shitty or not. And since it was a lie, in some ways it was shitty. If you're a person who cares earnestly about the truth, or if you have a personal investment in EmpEnt.
[shrugs]
What part of this has actually gotten under your skin, since you aren't trying to get justice for Yue? Is it just the nebulous wrongness of it all?
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[takes his phone back and types in a different search result and just skims through, showing her that much content had been made at Yue's expense]
It got ugly, he dropped out of modeling entirely and started doing what he does now. For whatever reason, he doesn't tell people, but he can't help himself from making it pretty obvious he hates me.
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And even then. But, you know. It would be a good start towards making amends.
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Anyway, I didn't ask him because I simply can't communicate with him.
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This isn't the first time this has happened. Even if you asked, he probably wouldn't tell you. But I don't have any advice, I also find him hard to communicate with.
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But if you think what he really wants is for me to publicly apologize, get him to admit it to me and I'll think about it. He's had plenty of chances to ask for that himself, though.
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What if you find a different way to acknowledge that you don't actually have a problem with non-binary people and you may have been wrong in the past? Completely unrelated. That wouldn't be sleazy.
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But that doesn't matter, because riling up narrow minded people for clicks is the job. It will always be the job. The point of the Demonic Squid character is not to be a likeable guy who is right about things.
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Seriously, though... If you still did this, that means Yue had to have done something that looked at least vaguely appropriative of female spaces, right? Otherwise it wouldn't have worked for anyone. Or it would have gone directly against your stance, clicks aside.
But I have trouble picturing him doing that when he's so insistent on keeping diverse audiences into consideration in his content when they were a minority in his stats from EmpEnt. We argued about that more than once. He insisted they were fake. There were errors in the documents, so it was impossible to tell what was happening. It was all pretty annoying.
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Besides, even a brand's marketing can grow and evolve. Unless you don't want it to.
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The character Demonic Squid is unredeemable trash who is incapable of being considerate. The guy who plays Demonic Squid just needed a job and found something he was good at. You know, I tried having a 'nice' stream when I started, but then I decided I liked eating more.
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So you can change it.
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If I wanted to start a second channel, I could, I guess. Or quit entirely. Rebranding Demonic Squid wouldn't be worth the effort, it's almost a decade entrenched in it's current brand.
But why? I still enjoy it, and I'm still good at it. And I'm more successful than ever.
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Your viewers are dumb. You can be less shitty, without losing anything. They just want to hear you destroy whoever.
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[shrugs]
What part of this has actually gotten under your skin, since you aren't trying to get justice for Yue? Is it just the nebulous wrongness of it all?
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[........I'm so sorry for your life Maomao]
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I guess I'll just have to keep being stubborn until my results improve.
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