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That's the ex.

Anyway, Yue probably isn't as bad as Shasa but he's definitely attached to the visions.

I don't know what all he's seen of you in them, though.

I may never know either. I made it clear to him that I'm not whoever he thinks I am, so I suspect we won't speak again.

What did you do to him, by the way?

You're trapped on a boat with him now, you'll definitely speak again.

What did he tell you?

Maybe we'll just see each other and be on our way.

He thought I was leaving EmpEnt because of your shorts, and he kept bringing you up even though I never said I knew you.

Really... I hope that was at least before he also spent like a half hour acting like that was all about him. I thought maybe I'd gotten through to him, but he seems to think my career revolves around bothering him specifically.

[pulls up his phone and looks something up and then turns something on and shows her a viewtube clip.

The clip is of Demonic Squid, but it's NOT on his channel, but rather some fanmade montage of a bunch of clips from one of Booker's streams. It's a bit where he pulls up pictures of a BEAUTIFUL FEMALE MODEL (who looks like Yue) and reveals to chat that ACTUALLY he has a CONFIRMED SOURCE that this model is actually secretly a MAN, and while his chat starts to spam commentary about what this means for their sexuality, Squid sighingly tells them that they are all MISSING THE POINT and this is yet another case of MEN TAKING WORK FROM WOMEN.

The video is clipped in such a way that it's obvious back and forth on this went on for probably 20 or so minutes while he riled up and argued with chat, and it's pretty classically just The Kind Of Thing Squid Does. Talks nonsense without blinking, and half of his chat is clearly in on the joke but the other half is getting whatever ideas they had already validated and mounting up to get Justifiably Pissed about something.

But for Catherine, who has heard him stream more than anyone deserves, this is one of countless times he's done something similar. Talking for 2-3 hours a night multiple times a week means a lot of stupid shit gets said on a regular basis.]

[oh god]

Booker...

It went a bit viral for a bit.

[takes his phone back and types in a different search result and just skims through, showing her that much content had been made at Yue's expense]

It got ugly, he dropped out of modeling entirely and started doing what he does now. For whatever reason, he doesn't tell people, but he can't help himself from making it pretty obvious he hates me.

I think anyone would hate you for life if someone did that to them without apologizing publicly for it afterwards.

And even then. But, you know. It would be a good start towards making amends.

Hating me is understandable, it's just a little weird he prefers to make me tell the story. But there's no reason to make amends.

The reason to make amends is you were wrong, it's not about him at all. You assumed things about someone else's gender, and gender is complicated as it is without you setting it on fire. There's plenty of actually shitty lives for you to ruin out there. You could afford to take an L for once, if it's for a good cause.

Anyway, I didn't ask him because I simply can't communicate with him.

I've done lots of wrong things. It isn't bad to have someone to be mad at, anyway. And he doesn't want my apologies.

This isn't the first time this has happened. Even if you asked, he probably wouldn't tell you. But I don't have any advice, I also find him hard to communicate with.

You know there's wrong and there's wrong. I've never lived in a black and white world and I don't think it exists, but it's good to admit when you mess up. It builds character. And I bet it would even bring you views and create controversy. "Demonic Squid has a conscience?!" Your viewers would spike for a while just for admitting one little truth that could save lives.

Personally, I think revitalizing something that's died down so that I can do an apology tour and get some views is sleezier than what started this.

But if you think what he really wants is for me to publicly apologize, get him to admit it to me and I'll think about it. He's had plenty of chances to ask for that himself, though.

I said this isn't about him and I mean it. I don't understand him either. I'm just thinking about the implications of what happened.

What if you find a different way to acknowledge that you don't actually have a problem with non-binary people and you may have been wrong in the past? Completely unrelated. That wouldn't be sleazy.

I've said a dozen times that I don't have a problem with non-binary -- and trans -- people before in various circumstances. Honestly I might have even said so during the original bit.

But that doesn't matter, because riling up narrow minded people for clicks is the job. It will always be the job. The point of the Demonic Squid character is not to be a likeable guy who is right about things.

Gasp.

Seriously, though... If you still did this, that means Yue had to have done something that looked at least vaguely appropriative of female spaces, right? Otherwise it wouldn't have worked for anyone. Or it would have gone directly against your stance, clicks aside.

But I have trouble picturing him doing that when he's so insistent on keeping diverse audiences into consideration in his content when they were a minority in his stats from EmpEnt. We argued about that more than once. He insisted they were fake. There were errors in the documents, so it was impossible to tell what was happening. It was all pretty annoying.

Edited 2025-06-02 09:07 (UTC)

I think you're over thinking it... Did you not realize that Demonic Squid just makes shit up?

Edited 2025-06-02 12:52 (UTC)

I thought the person behind Demonic Squid was unredeemable trash who was incapable of being considerate, and I was wrong.

Besides, even a brand's marketing can grow and evolve. Unless you don't want it to.

[amused, dry]

The character Demonic Squid is unredeemable trash who is incapable of being considerate. The guy who plays Demonic Squid just needed a job and found something he was good at. You know, I tried having a 'nice' stream when I started, but then I decided I liked eating more.

I get that. I ghost wrote porn to pay my bills. But I don't need to do that anymore, and neither do you.

So you can change it.

[he was not prepared for "I ghost wrote porn"]

If I wanted to start a second channel, I could, I guess. Or quit entirely. Rebranding Demonic Squid wouldn't be worth the effort, it's almost a decade entrenched in it's current brand.

But why? I still enjoy it, and I'm still good at it. And I'm more successful than ever.

That's not what I'm saying. I heard your stream about my doxing, and I appreciated that you deflected attention from me in spite of what Demonic Squid the character should have done. But it didn't seem to me like the essence of Demonic Squid was affected by that in any way.

Your viewers are dumb. You can be less shitty, without losing anything. They just want to hear you destroy whoever.

I didn't do anything Demonic Squid the character wouldn't do. It wasn't about being shitty or not. And since it was a lie, in some ways it was shitty. If you're a person who cares earnestly about the truth, or if you have a personal investment in EmpEnt.

[shrugs]

What part of this has actually gotten under your skin, since you aren't trying to get justice for Yue? Is it just the nebulous wrongness of it all?

Yes. It feels like one of those stories where the plot is "people are stubborn," and I really don't like those.

[........I'm so sorry for your life Maomao]

Edited 2025-06-02 21:59 (UTC)

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